How are Hinduism and Sikhism related, considering they both originated in Punjab, India?

Raamaanand's Lord and Master is the All-pervading Lord God.

ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਮੈ ਬਲਿਹਾਰੀ ਤੋਰ ॥

How can people understand You, when they are entranced by Maya? ||1|| Pause ||

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ਜਬ ਲਗੁ ਮਨਿ ਬੈਕੁੰਠ ਕੀ ਆਸ ॥

As mentioned above Guru Arjan Dev was talking from the perspective Sant Kabir whose views we have discussed much earlier here. We know that Sant Kabir continuing in the Ramanandi Sampradaya went further away from the mainstream ritualistic Hinduism and was journeying more towards a SEAMLESS Dharma.

ਰਾਮਾਨੰਦ ਜੀ ਘਰੁ ੧

How do I become mentally strong?

Raamaanand Jee, First House:

The Sant Sampraday of Sikh panth integrates the warrior spirit of the Nihangs and Khalsa, the service of Seva panth and the renunciation of Udasi/Nirmala saints.

Where spring, the lord of seasons reigneth, there the unstruck music sounds of itself,

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ਜਿਨਿ ਸਕਲ ਬਿਕਲ ਭ੍ਰਮ ਕਾਟੇ ਮੋਰ ॥

Again we see that the originator of this Sant Sampraday himself talks about Brahman even in Gurbani.

My body and breath of life belong to Allah - to Raam - the God of both. ||4||

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Hari is in the East, Allah is in the West.

The Word of the Guru's Shabad eradicates the karma of millions of past actions. ||3||1||

We have searched the turaki Dharam (Turk's religion, Islam), these teachers throw many thunderbolts,

Why does my girlfriend keep asking me if I love her?

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You have cut through all my confusion and doubt.

Sain (a barber)

Does having the wrong address on my car insurance invalidate my policy?

ਸਾਧਸੰਗਤਿ ਬੈਕੁੰਠੈ ਆਹਿ ॥੪॥੧੦॥

ਨਾ ਹਮ ਹਿੰਦੂ ਨ ਮੁਸਲਮਾਨ ॥

There is my Lord self-revealed, and the scent of sandal and flowers dwells in those deeps.

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For many years, I practiced penance and intense meditation at Kaashi;

ਸਗਲ ਜਨਮੁ ਸਿਵ ਪੁਰੀ ਗਵਾਇਆ ॥

Bhakti movement began in South (Tamil Nadu to be precise) and slowly spread to Northern parts of India. This movement was extremely popular because of its simple fundamentals which could be understood by even commonfolk. Vaishnavism, Shaivism etc… were already connecting with commonfolk from a long time and this Bhakti movement reinforced it by making the devotee feel a personal connection with the deity.

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Actually, this part of the Ang 326 is widely used by McSikhs to show that Sikhism considers Hindu pilgrimages as useless and thus drives home the point again that the “religion” has got NOTHING to do with Hinduism.

The views of Kabir are very much in parallel to the Advaita philosophy and it is obvious that as the disciple of Ramanandacharya he will carry forward with his chosen NIRGUN BHAKTI.

ਕਤ ਜਾਈਐ ਰੇ ਘਰ ਲਾਗੋ ਰੰਗੁ ॥

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ਰਾਮਾਨੰਦ ਸੁਆਮੀ ਰਮਤ ਬ੍ਰਹਮ ॥

There is a reason why I mention ROOTED and thus NOT implying that it belongs to one of the numerous sects in Sanatana Dharma like Shaivism, Vaishnavism, Shaktism, Smartism etc…

ਜਹਾ ਜਾਈਐ ਤਹ ਜਲ ਪਖਾਨ ॥

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ਰਾਮਾਨੰਦ ਸੁਆਮੀ ਰਮਤ ਬ੍ਰਹਮ ॥

If God be within the mosque, then to whom does this world belong?

The young and the old drink milk pudding, but these fools eat the cow's body.

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How can they kill the mother, whose milk they drink like that of a wet nurse?

The influence of Kabir is significant on Sikhism. The following Bani from Ang 1136 is attributed to GURU ARJAN DEV but if you observe at the end you can see that he was talking in the spirit of Sant Kabir.

Let’s see what Gurbani has about Ramanandacharya’s views.

Bhagat Kabir ji / Raag Sriraag / / Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 92

Bhagat Kabir ji / Raag Gauri / / Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 325

I have taken the One Formless Lord into my heart; I humbly worship Him there. ||3||

So in the same spirit Kabir finds pilgrimages to holy cities futile as his mind is fixated on Rama!

ਏਕ ਦਿਵਸ ਮਨ ਭਈ ਉਮੰਗ ॥

Sikhism is a NIRGUN path descending from the Sant Sampraday of Ramanandacharya and traces its ideas to VEDANTA!

Kabeer: O worthless mortal, do not lose the Naam, the Name of the Lord.

From Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 1195

Kabir (a weaver)

We can understand that Kabir despite being in favor of formless worship was very much embedded in the Dharmik fold but always preached in the spirit of the transcendental nature of Brahman to the point that HE LOST THE DISTINCTION BETWEEN HINDU AND MUSLIM.

then who is there to know what happens without?

I do not perform Hindu worship services, nor do I offer the Muslim prayers.

Because in my previous life, I did not practice penance and intense meditation. ||1||

Gauree, Kabeer Jee, Panch-Padas:

Look within your heart, for there you will find both Karim and Ram;

ਪੂਜਨ ਚਾਲੀ ਬ੍ਰਹਮ ਠਾਇ ॥

ਕੈਸੇ ਬੂਝੈ ਜਬ ਮੋਹਿਆ ਹੈ ਮਾਇਆ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥

Sikhism is fundamentally rooted in BHAKTI tradition and thus ultimately in Sanatana Dharma. There is no doubt about it despite what modern McSikh acrobatics try to claim otherwise

Without looking into one's heart, how can one reach paradise?

The divergence of Kabir’s views from Vedanta is seen in the fact that he fully opposed religious symbolism of ALL KINDS and not just IDOLS.

For a superficial McSikh who is interested only in separation and not enlightenment the views of Kabir can be easily shown as a denouncement of Hindu practices.

One Universal Creator God. By The Grace Of The True Guru:

ਹਜ ਕਾਬੈ ਜਾਉ ਨ ਤੀਰਥ ਪੂਜਾ ॥

Kabir is the child of Allah and of Ram: He is my Guru, He is my Pir.

ਤਬ ਲਗੁ ਹੋਇ ਨਹੀ ਚਰਨ ਨਿਵਾਸੁ ॥੩॥

Where should I go? My home is filled with bliss.

ਕਬੀਰ ਨਿਰਗੁਣ ਨਾਮ ਨ ਰੋਸੁ ॥

I have searched through all the Vedas and the Puraanas.

If Ram be within the image which you find upon your pilgrimage,

The Saadh Sangat, the Company of the Holy, is heaven. ||4||10||

Now tell me, Lord, what will my condition be?

यस्य देवे परा भक्तिः यथा देवे तथा गुरौ । तस्यैते कथिता ह्यर्थाः प्रकाशन्ते महात्मनः प्रकाशन्ते महात्मन इति ।

Here ਨਿਰਗੁਣ is Nirgun and not just lord. This is just another example to show that Kabir himself continued in the NIRGUN BHAKTI path.

I serve the One Lord, and not any other. ||2||

He who has highest Bhakti of Deva (God), just like his Deva, so for his Guru (teacher),

He does not dwell at the Lord's Feet. ||3||

Sant Kabir was staunchly against cow slaughter.

Kabir, Ravidas and ultimately the NINE SIKH GURUS are a product of this very Sant Sampraday founded by Ramanandacharya!

ੴ ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਪ੍ਰਸਾਦਿ ॥

ਤੂ ਪੂਰਿ ਰਹਿਓ ਹੈ ਸਭ ਸਮਾਨ ॥

But we have actually seen how much Kabir is also rooted in the Vedantic concept of “supreme realization” but in a non-mainstream path.

ਜਿਉ ਜਲ ਛੋਡਿ ਬਾਹਰਿ ਭਇਓ ਮੀਨਾ ॥

ਪੂਜਾ ਕਰਉ ਨ ਨਿਵਾਜ ਗੁਜਾਰਉ ॥

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ਗਉੜੀ ਕਬੀਰ ਜੀ ਪੰਚਪਦੇ ॥

I am not a Hindu, nor am I a Muslim.

Kaashi and Magahar - I consider them the same.

There, where millions of Krishnas stand with hands folded,

ਮਰਤੀ ਬਾਰ ਮਗਹਰਿ ਉਠਿ ਆਇਆ ॥੨॥

Where the demi-gods and the munis are unnumbered, where millions of Saraswatis, goddess of music play the vina,

For him Dharma was beyond everything physical including the desire for heaven because was fully into the NIRGUN . The last verse shows that according to him the company of the enlightened Sadhus is heaven which is again a typical teaching of Sanatana Dharma.

NOW…

As long as the mind is filled with the desire for heaven,

ਮਰਨੁ ਭਇਆ ਮਗਹਰ ਕੀ ਬਾਸੀ ॥੩॥

With inadequate devotion, how can anyone swim across? ||4||

ਬ੍ਰਹਮ is Brahm i.e the Brahman of vedanta but it gets interpreted as an all-pervading lord god.

From where did the word Maya come? Isn’t it a typical Vedantic concept discussed profoundly in Advaita? It definitely isn’t a concept pioneered by Kabir or even his teacher Ramanandacharya! It is ultimately from Sanatana Dharma!

Bhagat Kabir ji / Raag Gauri / / Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 325

Meeting with the Guru, my Spiritual Teacher, I realize God, my Lord and Master. ||5||3||

— Kabir, Ramaini 1, Translated by David Lorenzen

Let's look at the views of Sant Kabir

ਗੁਰ ਪੀਰ ਮਿਲਿ ਖੁਦਿ ਖਸਮੁ ਪਛਾਨਾ ॥੫॥੩॥

ਗੁਰ ਕਾ ਸਬਦੁ ਕਾਟੈ ਕੋਟਿ ਕਰਮ ॥੩॥੧॥

ਅਲਹ ਰਾਮ ਕੇ ਪਿੰਡੁ ਪਰਾਨ ॥੪॥

I am not a Hindu, nor am I a Muslim.

I am like a fish out of water,

Guru Nanak (right) and Bhai Mardana (foreground) with Bhagat Kabir (left). This painting is found in the B-40 Janamsakhi, written and painted in 1733. The painting was made by Alam Chand Raj

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There the streams of light flow in all directions, few are the men who can cross to that shore!

CONCLUSION:

At the time of my death, I moved to Magahar. ||2||

ਤਜੀ ਲੇ ਬਨਾਰਸ ਮਤਿ ਭਈ ਥੋਰੀ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥

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— Kabir, II.57, Translated by Rabindranath Tagore

These morons know nothing, they wander about in ignorance,

Ramanandacharya was a 14th-century Hindu Vaishnava devotional poet saint who amalgamated Advaita with Vaishnava Bhakti. He was the pioneer in validating NIRGUN and SAGUN Bhakti as parallel paths.

ਮੁਆ ਕਬੀਰੁ ਰਮਤ ਸ੍ਰੀ ਰਾਮੈ

ਕਹੁ ਗੁਰ ਗਜ ਸਿਵ ਸਭੁ ਕੋ ਜਾਨੈ ॥

He accepted even women (Sursuri and Padywati) as disciples. Bhagat Pipa and Dhanna were Rajput and Jat who were also his disciples.

I ground up sandalwood, along with several fragrant oils.

Bhagat Kabir ji / Raag Gauri / / Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 326

Now that my time to die has come, I have come to dwell at Magahar! ||3||

That Kabeer died chanting the Lord's Name. ||5||15||

Ramanandacharya’s teachings were centered on pure and personal connection with the God Rama and didn’t believe in any kind of formal ritualism. He used the common vernacular language instead of Sanskrit so that everyone could understand.

Ramarchan Paddati gives more info about his teachings.

Ravidas (a chamar shoemaker)

Here ਰਾਮੈ is Rama and not just lord. Kabir died chanting the name of Rama DESPITE him not finding any result of penances done in holy cities in his previous birth. Another example to show how much Kabir valued personal devotion to Rama in his own NIRGUN style.

Raamaanand's Lord and Master is the All-pervading Lord God.

One day, a desire welled up in my mind.

I wasted my whole life in the city of Shiva;

Where millions of Shivas are lost in contemplation, where millions of Indras dwell in the sky,

Recklessly they display boundless pride while explaining their own aims, they kill cows.

Sadhna (a Muslim butcher) and

ਨਾ ਹਮ ਹਿੰਦੂ ਨ ਮੁਸਲਮਾਨ ॥

You are totally pervading and permeating in all.

ਅਬ ਕਹੁ ਰਾਮ ਕਵਨ ਗਤਿ ਮੋਰੀ ॥

Says Kabeer, the Guru and Ganaysha and Shiva all know

Says Kabeer, unto whom should I tell this?

ਪੂਰਬ ਜਨਮ ਹਉ ਤਪ ਕਾ ਹੀਨਾ ॥੧॥

ਕਹੁ ਕਬੀਰ ਇਹ ਕਹੀਐ ਕਾਹਿ ॥

Ramananda accepted disciples without discriminating against anyone by gender, class or caste and they included even people from humble origins like

ਘਸਿ ਚੰਦਨ ਚੋਆ ਬਹੁ ਸੁਗੰਧ ॥

Let’s look at the most used verse by McSikhs to show that Sikhs are neither Hindus nor Muslims.

All the men and women of the world are His living forms.

ਬਹੁਤੁ ਬਰਸ ਤਪੁ ਕੀਆ ਕਾਸੀ ॥

ਸੋ ਬ੍ਰਹਮੁ ਬਤਾਇਓ ਗੁਰ ਮਨ ਹੀ ਮਾਹਿ ॥੧॥

I am a sacrifice to You, O my True Guru.

ਮੁਆ ਕਬੀਰੁ ਰਮਤ ਸ੍ਰੀ ਰਾਮੈ ॥੫॥੧੫॥

ਓਛੀ ਭਗਤਿ ਕੈਸੇ ਉਤਰਸਿ ਪਾਰੀ ॥੪॥

ਊਹਾਂ ਤਉ ਜਾਈਐ ਜਉ ਈਹਾਂ ਨ ਹੋਇ ॥੨॥

Now here in this verse

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I left Benares - I had little common sense. ||1|| Pause ||

ਮੇਰਾ ਚਿਤੁ ਨ ਚਲੈ ਮਨੁ ਭਇਓ ਪੰਗੁ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥

ਏਕ ਨਿਰੰਕਾਰ ਲੇ ਰਿਦੈ ਨਮਸਕਾਰਉ ॥੩॥

ਕਹੁ ਕਬੀਰ ਇਹੁ ਕੀਆ ਵਖਾਨਾ ॥

To him who is high-minded, these teachings will be illuminating.

— Kabir, III.2, Translated by Rabindranath Tagore

We can see that great saints like Kabir and Ravidas etc… descended from the Ramananda sampradaya which is still the largest ascetic order in India.

I would go there, only if the Lord were not here. ||2||

That God showed me the Guru, within my own mind. ||1||

I do not make pilgrimages to Mecca, nor do I worship at Hindu sacred shrines.

Where millions of Vishnus bow their heads, where millions of Brahmas are reading the Vedas,

ਬੇਦ ਪੁਰਾਨ ਸਭ ਦੇਖੇ ਜੋਇ ॥

Shvetashvatara Upanishad (6.23)

ਏਕੋ ਸੇਵੀ ਅਵਰੁ ਨ ਦੂਜਾ ॥੨॥

Says Kabeer, this is what I say:

I went to God's place, and worshipped Him there.

ਕਾਸੀ ਮਗਹਰ ਸਮ ਬੀਚਾਰੀ ॥

Wherever I go, I find water and stones.

My consciousness does not go out wandering. My mind has become crippled. ||1|| Pause ||